Theological ponderings from William Loewen

The Fresno Fiasco

A lot of talk has been happening in the Mennonite twitter world (which is a pretty weird overlap of two very different realms) in the last few days about changes in a Master’s program at Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary. Mostly connected to this article. Since I am a student in that program, I thought I would write out my thoughts publicly as well.

So, what is the program? The Masters of Arts in Ministry, Leadership and Culture is a distance ed degree offered by Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary, which is a Mennonite Brethren school and part of Fresno Pacific University in California. Three big name pastors with some level of Anabaptist/Mennonite affiliation and/or conviction were signed on as guest lecturers, namely Bruxy Cavey of the meetinghouse in Ontario, Brian Zahnd of Word of Life Church in Missouri and Greg Boyd of Woodland Hills Church in Minnesota. The program has weekly online classes (or synchronous sessions, whatever that means) where these pastors would each spend half an hour once a month teaching the students on various topics and taking questions from them. There are also annual residency weeks, where these pastors would fly in and give lectures and workshops. Videos of some of these lectures are available on youtube.

So, what’s the problem? While these men are leaders of large churches and authors of popular books, they are also no strangers to controversy. One central issue is that none of them hold to Penal Substitutionary Atonement (PSA) theory as the fullest and only way to explain how God saves the world. Essentially PSA says that God can only forgive humanity and set aside his murderous rage towards sin and those who commit it because of Jesus’ sacrificial death. These three men, and I would argue a growing number of other pastors and theologians also, say that the Bible paints a bigger and more beautiful picture of atonement and the PSA paints a narrow and ugly picture of who God is. For some schools of thought (namely the neo-Calvinist school) to argue against PSA is to argue against the gospel, as though if God doesn’t save by blood, God doesn’t save at all. Also, Greg Boyd holds a theological/philosophical position called Open Theism. He argues that the future isn’t knowable, and so, while God knows all possibilities and has a plan for all possibilities, God doesn’t know the future. Many of the same people who defend PSA also see Open Theism as an attack on God’s omniscience (all-knowingness). It just so happens that many of the people who see Open Theism and other atonement theories as a threat to the church are also donors to the US MB church and Fresno Pacific University. Leaders within the University and the Seminary were taking regular angry phone calls with threats to withdraw donation money, and so the decision was made by the university and the denomination to disassociate with these three pastors.

So, how do you feel about this as a student? I’m disappointed by the decision, I’m disappointed by the lack of communication as the decision was being made, and I’m disappointed by the anger and narrow-mindedness that necessitated the decision. I’m not going to withdraw from the program over it, but I certainly wouldn’t have signed up for it without them. The seminary faculty are wonderful people, brilliant scholars and people of profound faith and I have enjoyed learning from them. To say that they universally endorse this decision would be inaccurate. The other students in the program have become dear friends whose company I cherish. Most them are more upset than I am, would use stronger language than I do to communicate their frustration.

A lot could be said about freedom of education, about the need for diverse voices in the pursuit of higher learning. I could say more about the need for churches to support their schools, their professors and their young students. I could easily rant about the corrupting influence of wealth, dogmatism and nationalism. All of those things inform the current crisis, but the more pivotal issue that I would like to address is the ongoing question of Mennonite identity.

Up until recently Mennonites have happily relegated themselves to minority status within the global church. Call it a kind of theological PTSD after being persecuted by more established churches during the Reformation. More and more over the years, we Mennonites have tried to claim a seat at the theological table. Whether or not we should be doing that, we’ve been so worried that we won’t fit in, that we try harder to prove that we belong there. Now, there have been basically three different approaches to that process of fitting in; some say we should fit in on the right, some say we should fit in on the left, and others say we should crawl back into the hole we crawled out of. I don’t have a problem saying there are merits to all three of those positions. Sure, we need to proclaim Jesus, build big churches and expect to fill them. Sure, we need to give to the poor and radically welcome outsiders. Sure, there is corruption in the world that we need to protect ourselves from. What happened at FPU is that the seminary said that they were going to take a seat at the emerging table and big MB churches said, “No! If you sit at that table, we won’t be welcomed at THIS table.” The funny thing is that they aren’t leaving old fashioned Mennonite reclusivism behind, they have simply switched colonies. They have simply taken the old Mennonite colony mindset into evangelical world and behaving just like the ancestors they think they have left behind. They’ve forgotten the lesson we learned that made us want to leave the colony in the first place, that when you build walls to keep people out, you will always find Jesus on the other side.


5 responses to “The Fresno Fiasco”

  1. Ron Thiessen Avatar
    Ron Thiessen

    My PhD is not in theology; however, I was trained to aspire to an objective and open-minded perspective in my research. This is how knowledge grows and is refined. Knowledge is not static.
    There was a time when I considered pursuing a ThM. I wanted to explore how God, science, and reason coexist and can be complementary understandings of the universe. I stepped away from this possible pursuit because, in part, I worried that my ideas would be quashed in favour of orthodoxy (i.e. static knowledge).
    Despite this setback William, continue your studies and explore your research desires through term papers, a capstone thesis, or writing research articles.

    1. You might be interested that our friend Richard Penner initiated an annual visiting lecturer series at CMU to promote discussion about God and science. I believe those lectures are available on the CMU website and if not there should be another one in this academic year.

      So glad to see your post Will, I’ve been wondering what was up since the changes are mentioned in other sources I read.

  2. Wow. I can only imagine what these events and this process must mean to you, both in your world and in your heart. Of course, as an agnostic / atheist, I cannot find credibility in any of the arguments put forth here but i know, from my youth, what it’s like to have one’s beliefs challenged and feel the threat of adversaries to sacred doctrines. All i’d like to say is, William, keep listening to your heart – the still small voice in the depths of your heart – your own heart – and follow that. I believe that no matter what you call it, it will be right for you.

  3. Rachel Stella Avatar
    Rachel Stella

    Hi, William,

    Could we publish your post on Mennonite World Review’s blog at If so, we’d also like a brief one- or two-sentence bio of you, and we’ll link back to your blog as well.

    Feel free to email me with any questions.

    Rachel Stella
    Mennonite World Review

  4. I used to read and follow what Cavey, Zahnd, and Boyd had to say. I read books, listened to podcasts, watched Youtube videos. I am a Bible College graduate who has taken Masters degree courses over the years. Your thoughts about divisions within the Anabaptist camp is accurate. I was born in a missionary family (Pentecostal) but I became a full 5 point Calvinist. After Bible College I was in the Brethren In Christ. I left that to become a flaming Charismatic. I was in some hyper Charismatic churches and on staff in a Vineyard church. I even left that after several decades and became Baptist. I studied at a Baptist seminary. All the while I read theology and debates, including Open Theism, which I oppose. I am persuaded by the PSA theory of the atonement, although I believe the best is a blending of various theories. I am not a “social justice” warrior. Never have been. So the Anabaptist work among the poor and unfortunate, though vibrant where in live in Kitchener Waterloo, Ontario, is not my strong suit. I find too much of the social gospel movement today heavily influenced by progressive politics of the Left, and Wallis and Sojourners is just part of it, and it is not good as far as I am concerned. The heavy influence of nuanced Christian thought and a soft sell of Jesus and his radical call to repentance, faith and advancing the Kingdom of God, which includes good works as evidence of faith, gets mellowed down, and watered down, by folk who are more Marxist Leninist than following the Jesus of the New Testament. The whole LGBTQ debate is one such trend. Biblical inerrancy has been sacrificed and now you make Scripture mean whatever you want, you water down the commands and instructions of God. You love and accept without considerations whether or not it is right to do so. Jesus was not inclusive to the point of tolerating sin and disobedience. What I find with these 3 men is that they are very dangerous. Very dangerous. My last word is simply this. When people feel betrayed and marginalized by a popular trendy belief and practice, be it in theology, ministry, or a vocation where they work, when these people are ignored, and there is no debate as to what should be acceptable or not, these people talk with their feet and pocket books. I live in Waterloo where the one university, Wilfred Laurier has been made a mockery internationally for its stand on very left leaning political correctly and gender identity politics. This same thing is creeping into all the churches, and championed by Zahnd, Boyd and Cavey. The only language schools understand is MONEY. Money talks. So in this case at Fresno, the threat of losing finances and denominational support, was not just a threat, but a promise. The same thing happened at Laurier this year. Enrollment suffered as did funding. A reputation tarnished in the international marketplace of ideas and education. I find Cavey, Zahnd and Boyd to have more liberal ideas than the neorthodox believers of a century ago. We use the same words but we don’t mean the same things in their use and application. I even wonder if we believe the same God and the same Ancient Creeds of the Church. Blessings. Thank you.

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